tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post112259289028096463..comments2024-02-18T15:43:14.717-05:00Comments on Moved to LivinLaVidaLowCarb.com/Blog: What's So Wrong With Drinking Diet Sodas?Jimmy Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-19908540571808773802009-11-03T09:00:17.829-05:002009-11-03T09:00:17.829-05:00I drink huge amounts of diet soda everyday, and am...I drink huge amounts of diet soda everyday, and am overweight by about 20 lbs. I've been at exactly this weight for 30 years or so. And I am one physically lazy SOB. But please read on. <br /><br />I bought a Bowflex and started using it, and lost virtually all of of my excess weight, exactly as I expected and planned. It worked like a charm. I have done this sort of thing before, but only about three times in my entire life: somehow I get motivated, start working out, lose weight, and then eventually give up exercising. I then regain all the previously lost weight and return to my usual poundage.<br /><br />The reasons I quit exercising have varied, but are always just different ways of rationalizing the fact that, in the end, I hate exercising. It's just that simple. I don't like the way it makes my muscles feel. I don't like being sweaty, even if just for half-an-hour. I don't like the monotony while actually doing exercise. I just can't stand anything about it, and it makes my skin crawl, so I eventually go back to avoiding it entirely. The good feelings I get from being in shape are incredibly overwhelmed by my hate of doing the exercise in the first place.<br /><br />During all of these attempts, and for my entire adult life, my basic diet and caloric intake has remained just about exactly the same (a little high in proteins and a little low in fruits/vegetables, but nothing extreme and basically well-balanced, and in line with recommended allowances and food groupings).<br /><br />So, I can "easily" lose weight while eating normally and drinking tons of diet soda, but also exercising. I can eat normally and drink diet soda and "maintain my weight" without exercising at all, but at almost exactly 20 lbs over the recommended weight for my height and body type.<br /><br />I am afraid that if I were to quit drinking diet soda, I'd actually start replacing it with real sweets of some kind, and could actually gain even more weight. That would seem to be the likely reaction to quitting diet soda, for me. It doesn't seem to make me gain weight beyond my norm, and it doesn't make losing weight any more challenging on those rare occasions when I try.<br /><br />I'm 50 and feel great, and am comfortable carrying the 20 extra pounds. The older I get, the more comfortable with it I seem to be - to no one's surprise, I'm sure.<br /><br />I am well aware that I would probably live longer if I regularly exercised and/or quit drinking diet soda (I guess). I'm just not sure I would want to extend a life that involved regular exercise or giving up my diet soda. If I can make it to, say, 75 without having to exercise any more at all, that will be good enough for me and I'll consider anything else I get gravy. My dad lived to 85 with no exercise ever, and while being abnormally flabby for his last 45 years (probably 40 lbs overweight with basically no real muscle to speak of).<br /><br />He didn't drink any soda though, diet or otherwise...BlindMeWithSciencePleasenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-64133548236056372482009-09-22T21:34:00.806-04:002009-09-22T21:34:00.806-04:00I wanted to reply to Anonymous' (JP, MD) comme...I wanted to reply to Anonymous' (JP, MD) comment. <br /><br />A lack of "a mountain of documentation"(if indeed this is true) cannot be used to suggest that diet soda is safe by default. You have to consider why there is a lack of such evidence. Is it because there is a lack of data? Or is it because the data is inconclusive, despite a "mountain of documentation"? You seem to suggest the former so I'll go with that assumption. <br /><br />Did you consider that perhaps no one wishes to fund a study on this subject or devote sufficient funds to examine this issue. There are some studies in animals which suggest that diet soda is unhealthy from an biochemical standpoint, and there is data demonstrating its harm on teeth (primarily from the carbonation). <br /><br />If you think diet soda is safe, I guess your idea of "pretty safe" is different from mine. But it is incorrect to suggest that a lack of data suggests safety by default.Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-19683746186512872042009-09-22T21:18:04.925-04:002009-09-22T21:18:04.925-04:00Regina is correct in her assessment of diet sodas....Regina is correct in her assessment of diet sodas. But there are some points I'd like to share from my personal notes and from self-experimentation. From my experience, diet sodas (or other flavored, non-calorie drinks) tend to suppress my appetite when taken alone. Thus, when I'm in the mood to snack, I drink black coffee, ice tea (without sweetener), or diet sodas between meals. However, I've noticed that I consume more calories when I have a diet soda with a meal. Without consciously realizing it my total caloric intake is higher. This is also true when I drink ice tea (without any sweetener). There is likely a post ingestive effect going on here, but my experience seems to confirm what researchers have found in animal experiments as well. Something I found out after the fact, in my attempt to understand what I was experiencing.Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-53235210794347680202008-05-14T13:08:00.000-04:002008-05-14T13:08:00.000-04:00Here is a point to consider...with the trillions o...Here is a point to consider...with the trillions of doses of diet drinks over the years, you'd think that if the diet drink was actually "bad" for you, we would have a mountain of documentation that points to that conclusion. Instead, we have only a rag tag amount of peripheral studies that suggest that some aspects of diet drinks are "bad". And in most of these studies, no volume of drink is recommended as the most you should consume. The bottom line...they look pretty safe to me. There was one study that concluded that one soda a day (with or without sugar) increases your risk of cardiac disease by 47%...so to combat this problem I drink at least two diet sodas a day...just to be safe. JP, MDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-48234781743390760282006-09-22T18:19:00.000-04:002006-09-22T18:19:00.000-04:00Richard Feynman said, "It doesn't matter how beaut...Richard Feynman said, "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."<br /><br />Regina put forth a beautiful theory that makes perfect sense and seems to agree perfectly with experiments.<br /><br />But what you are doing is your experiment, and the results you are seeing are the results of that experiment. And the results you are seeing do not agree with Regina's theory.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16743654038093722456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1123170333385307792005-08-04T11:45:00.000-04:002005-08-04T11:45:00.000-04:00Here's a good reason to cut back on diet sodas - y...Here's a good reason to cut back on diet sodas - your teeth. It's proven to erode enamel, cause decay, and of course cause cavities. For instance, diet coke alone has an acidic value of 3.39. The pH threshold for enamel decay is 5.5 That right there is enough to consider putting away the pop.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, sodas dehydrate you. Drinking diet soda will dry out saliva in the mouth allowing the acids to work more effectively against you. The optimal time to drink diet sodas is with a full meal. Most people, as I notice, like to drink it during the day as a beverage thinking 'it has no calories, this is great' yet they're drinking it isolated creating something far worse.<BR/><BR/>And also, as mentioned, diet soda does contribute to weight gain. You may have mentioned it didn't particularly affect "you" but that is irrelevant, ultimately. The link has been made and proven to some varying degrees. If you're seriously interested in informing people as your site claims then it would be in your best interest to give them the facts; not your subjective opinions.emeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10128358194518309114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1122731538560785672005-07-30T09:52:00.000-04:002005-07-30T09:52:00.000-04:00Deep down inside, Adam, I know you are right. You...Deep down inside, Adam, I know you are right. You too, Regina. But I haven't seen any demonstrable evidence in my own experience that tells me drinking this stuff is going to harm my weight. It just hasn't for me. Maybe I'm weird or something (no comments on that!), but I don't see what the big deal is about drinking something that will not change your weight. Isn't that the result we have been looking for our entire lives?Jimmy Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1122644130863001022005-07-29T09:35:00.000-04:002005-07-29T09:35:00.000-04:00>>>Regina Wilshire is exempt from commenting on th...>>>Regina Wilshire is exempt from commenting on this. LOL! Just kidding.<<<<BR/><BR/>OK, OK, I admit, I am a food purist - but let's be clear, I don't expect everyone to be!<BR/><BR/>Anyway, aside from the potential insulin spikes and overeating of calories while consuming diet sodas, there are other issues to consider...I can give you ten more reasons to consider reducing your diet soda intake:<BR/><BR/>1) Displacement of nutrients if you're drinking the diet soda to stave off hunger and missing the nutrients you need since diet (or regular) soda offers nothing nutritionally. You may want to ask yourself if you're drinking such a high volume of diet soda to keep from eating? That's not necessarily a bad thing, but if that's the case, you might consider replacing the diet sodas with water.<BR/><BR/>2) Phosphoric Acid may interfere with the body's ability to use calcium, which can lead to osteoporosis or softening of the teeth and bones. Phosphoric acid also neutralizes the hydrochloric acid in your stomach, which can interfere with digestion, making it difficult to utilize nutrients. (Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Apr;79(4):537-43)<BR/><BR/>3) Tap water is used in the bottling process and usually isn't filtered so the sodas may contain chlorine, trihalomethanes, lead, cadmium, and various organic pollutants.<BR/><BR/>4) Dental erosion from the acidic nature of the diet soda (or regular), but you could just use a straw. (General Dentistry Mohamed A. Bassiouny, DMD, MSc, PhD Jie Yang, DMD, MMS, MS June 2005)<BR/><BR/>5) Possible link between carbonated beverages and esophageal cancer due to the gas causing burps and reflux of stomach acids. While that is a risk, esophagus irritation is much more common along with heartburn. This is because the carbonation causes increased gas in the stomach, which can stretch the lower esophageal sphincter (the trap door that keeps stomach contents in the stomach and not refluxing back into the esophagus) thus promoting reflux of acid backwards where it isn’t supposed to be. <BR/><BR/>6) Carbonation destroys enzymes and the friendly intestinal bacteria required for healthy digestion and immunity. Healthy digestion is key to ensuring that all the nutrients needed to support health and metabolism are available to the cells of the body that need them.<BR/><BR/>7) Artificial sweeteners are generally considered safe - although their approval is based on the thinking that small amounts will be ingested by the average person. Exceeding the amount considered "typical" places you into an unknown category for safety IMO.<BR/><BR/>8) Caffeine may be an issue if you're drinking the caffeinated sodas.<BR/><BR/>9) Tooth staining from the carmel coloring used in the colas. Erosion (see #4) of the enamel contributes to staining because it creates a rougher surface that holds onto the color.<BR/><BR/>10) Carbonation destroys enzymes and the friendly intestinal bacteria required for healthy digestion and immunity..https://www.blogger.com/profile/09224160356421549054noreply@blogger.com