tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post112530893760145246..comments2024-02-18T15:43:14.717-05:00Comments on Moved to LivinLaVidaLowCarb.com/Blog: Is Tingling, Depression And Rage Caused By Low-Carb?Jimmy Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-7754819379280852652016-03-01T14:51:10.537-05:002016-03-01T14:51:10.537-05:00I know this is an old post, but I found it googlin...I know this is an old post, but I found it googling. I am 3 1/2 weeks into keto and have not cheated even once. It has been difficult as I struggle with headaches, fatigue, inability to run or workout like I was, etc. I am taking a lot of supplements and chicken broth as suggested but it's not helping much. The worst part for me has been how moody and angry I feel all of the time. I feel like a different person. It's scary. I keep hoping it'll improve as I'm doing keto for PCOS, but each day I feel worse. The Vintage Farm Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12171507543078746273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-8898642825388457392009-09-05T00:14:57.233-04:002009-09-05T00:14:57.233-04:00I low-carbed for 2 years. In that time, I became v...I low-carbed for 2 years. In that time, I became very moody/angry. This is unusual as I’m very low keyed and happy. I thought it was pre-menopausal symptoms, and took 5HTP. That helped wonderfully!! Last year (year two of low carbing) was my worst year. My moods were up and down, my relationships suffered, no sleep, stressed out, and I attributed it to pre-menopausal symptoms and stress at work, again. After Christmas I started eating carbs. I gained back all the weight I lost (50 lbs), but my mood went from night to day. My mood improved, I didn’t stress about things like I had been, just like my old self. I’ve recently put 2 and 2 together and just did a search on 'mood and low carb' and found this article. What I know for sure: Every ‘body’ is different when it comes to food, loosing weight, moods, etc. For me, low carb is not the diet I need to follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-36265241788033484502009-05-09T11:55:00.000-04:002009-05-09T11:55:00.000-04:00I usually get on meds in the winter to help me wit...I usually get on meds in the winter to help me with depression. Something about when the sun comes out just changes me and I no longer need them in spring & summer. Vitamin D I guess! Anyway, I started a low carb diet in September. I really never thought much about it until yesterday. I have not been faithful to the low carb diet since spring break just because I gave into temptations lately. My moods have changed as well as my patience with everyone. I have been a real peach to be around. I thought back to what a happy mind set I had had up until then and without meds at that. I wondered if there was a relation to depression and carbs for me. Anyone ever experience this?<br /><br />ConfusedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-66000543088413210422008-07-27T00:21:00.000-04:002008-07-27T00:21:00.000-04:00I find if I drink diet sodas with aspartame that m...I find if I drink diet sodas with aspartame that my tongue tingles almost constantly..it doesn't do that with Splenda products..just sayin, it may be something as simple as that too..<BR/><BR/>and it will tingle for a few days after I stop drinking aspartame laced drinks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-13085854989491934882008-06-27T10:05:00.000-04:002008-06-27T10:05:00.000-04:00THANKS Carrie Ann! You WILL do this and I encoura...THANKS Carrie Ann! You WILL do this and I encourage you to come to my <A HREF="http://www.livinlowcarbdiscussion.com" REL="nofollow">low-carb discussion forum</A> for support as you continue this journey to better health.Jimmy Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-20705103083174080622008-06-26T22:45:00.000-04:002008-06-26T22:45:00.000-04:00thanks so much for that last comment jimmy. I am a...thanks so much for that last comment jimmy. I am almost 3 weeks in (my fourth time doing under 20g/day, lost 10-ish lbs each time) and ready to give up, but I think I'll go another week and see if my mood improves. I remember feeling a bit crummy the other times I low-carbed, but not this bad. I have a little 2-yr-old and a wonderful husband and was starting to feel that it's unfair they have to suffer with my moodiness, but if I can last another week and my mood improves, my whole family will be much happier. Thanks again. And to those who may be wondering, I don't normally suffer from depression (except one medicated bout of postpartum) so I notice myself being a "downer" for pretty much this entire 3 weeks since I started. If you're feeling this way too, try to trust Jimmy's comment that after the first few weeks, it gets MUCH better. I'll try to remember to re-post in another week or two in case anyone is wondering if there's been a change. I hope others continue to post notes on the subject too, if only to support those of us who do feel down when low-carbing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-56707044747401191392007-08-16T15:18:00.000-04:002007-08-16T15:18:00.000-04:00Hey Stephanie! I hope you stick with livin' la vi...Hey Stephanie! I hope you stick with livin' la vida low-carb because most of those symptoms are only short-lived during the first few weeks of the diet. It gets MUCH better after that, so don't give up hope just yet. :)Jimmy Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-46805178827257940152007-08-16T14:58:00.000-04:002007-08-16T14:58:00.000-04:00Hi Jimmy! Googling for this topic today and what ...Hi Jimmy! <BR/><BR/>Googling for this topic today and what do I find! Well, I'm experiencing crabbiness, irritability and depression again after 2+ yrs. of being off my meds. In fact, the other day, I decided to try and locate my old bottle of Wellbutrin. I'm not about to stop eating low carb, so I hope there are some answers for this problem.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10154037489896992482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-58558569124274609572007-05-11T16:45:00.000-04:002007-05-11T16:45:00.000-04:00Wow man, I was just blogging about carb anger and ...Wow man, I was just <A HREF="http://daniellescott.net/2007/05/11/carb-anger/" REL="nofollow">blogging about carb anger</A> and decided to google it. I thought my boyfriend made it up but I'm thrilled to find out it's for real.<BR/><BR/>It's only been a week and a half without carbs and I'm totaly down in the dumpster...<BR/><BR/>DScoTTGRRL<BR/><A HREF="http://www.daniellescott.net" REL="nofollow">www.daniellescott.net</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.cameraporn.net" REL="nofollow">www.cameraporn.net</A>Danielle L. Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03231002643643643179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-59847744519048782632006-12-31T19:58:00.000-05:002006-12-31T19:58:00.000-05:00Thank you for bring this up - my sister mentioned ...Thank you for bring this up - my sister mentioned this to me knowing I maintain a low/controlled-carb lifestyle (for 8 years now).<br /><br />I am always interested in true science and want to know the truth when it's established. If it turns out that there's proof that low-carb is bad for you in some dimension, I want to know it and make judgements based on facts. Unfortunately, most of the negatives put forward are not scientifically established, but more typically loosely posited as possible based on some oblique findings.<br /><br />The first thing that really got scientifically tested - the effect on lipid profile - turned out the opposite of what detractors and the researchers expected and posited. Three studies now demonstrate that in an actual lab controlled environment (I believe Duke, Cincinnati and Penn) - with something akin to (but not precisely the same as) double-blind placebo-controlled methodology - low-carb produced a lipid profile that was more desirable by cardiology standards than a low-fat regimen - higher HDL, neutral LDL, and much lower triglyceride levels (aka very low density lipids or VLDL - ostensibly the worst for you). If there's any similar scientifically based finding with similar methodology that contradicts this, please post.<br /><br />Now, with respect to this seratonin issue, I went to the MIT website and read all the underlying research I could locate with Google, which was frankly pretty sketchy. First of all, I could find nothing similar to the studies done on lipid profile, i.e., a <b>human</b> study done in a lab controlled environment with rigorous methods that actually even establishes the fact that a low-carb regimen compared to other dietary approaches results in differential seratonin levels. Studies on rats, while sometimes a good first step, are often not helpful given the significant differences in rats and humans in numerous dimensions. What is found to be true for rats may just as easily prove to be untrue for humans.<br /><br />Secondly, this hypothesis (low-carb=low seratonin) doesn't seem to address variability. If true for humans (still waiting to see the science and methodology behind this) is this a strong correlation? Does it effect all people the same? how much of a difference is there in individuals?<br /><br />Until I can see some real science backing up this proposition - which I would be happy to know if true - this falls into the same category as all the pre-study conjecture over the supposedly terrible lipid profiles that would result from low-carb. I'm not afraid of the facts and am willing to adjust to them as they become known. <br /><br />But there are still many people out there with either ignorant and uninformed prejudices against low-carb or competing (profit-driven) agendas. I will note that it appears the Wurtmans (researchers and promoters of low-carb=low seratonin) have their own weight loss center - Adara Weight Loss Center (for profit?).<br /><br />Bottom line - those of us who believe that we have experienced positive changes with a low-carb life need to be open to new facts as they become established; but equally, we need to remain skeptical of loose conjecture, oblique correlations presented as cause and effect, uninformed prejudices, and agenda-driven attacks not grounded in real facts.<br /><br />Elimarchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578333553258486026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1151329289034091532006-06-26T09:41:00.000-04:002006-06-26T09:41:00.000-04:00THANKS for sharing your comments, Rodney. I agree...THANKS for sharing your comments, Rodney. I agree with you that low-carb is NOT for everyone and to find whatever works for you to make your health the best it can be. That's what I talk about all the time at my blog and make it very clear. <BR/><BR/>BTW, your symptoms of being on low-carb (or controlled-carb which is nearly synonymous when I talk about "low-carb" in this forum) sound like the Induction phase and not what happens over the long-term.<BR/><BR/>THANKS for visiting and best wishes as you keep on livin' la vida low-carb.Jimmy Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1151327088124758562006-06-26T09:04:00.000-04:002006-06-26T09:04:00.000-04:00I am under medical advice to eat 60-80 grams of ca...I am under medical advice to eat 60-80 grams of carbs per day to keep my insulin level low and stable. This is to control a rare muscle disorder called periodic paralysis. It is a channelopathy that causes weakness or paralysis from potassium ions shifting in and out of the muscle cells. Eating low carbs makes my muscles feel wonderful, but after a day or two, I'm ready to scream! Horrible mood swings, anger, frustration, sounds that hurt, light sensitivity and nasty migraine headaches. Sorry guys, but low carbs isn't for everyone. Sometimes it has to be about CONTROLLED carbs. For other people it has to be about (gasp) low fat because that's what works for them. But as to your original question about low carbs and mood swings--oh yeah!Rodney Robbinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07581209670914476382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1138065224361148802006-01-23T20:13:00.000-05:002006-01-23T20:13:00.000-05:00First, to respond to Kalyn's comment - I *love* th...First, to respond to Kalyn's comment - I *love* the B-50 at Costco. Great vitamin. I feel a tangible, physical difference when I take it vs. when I miss a dose.<BR/><BR/>I take Celexa for depression. I've been on it since before starting low carb and it's the reason I had to try low carb. Zoloft (same class of med as Celexa - and Paxil) packed on the pounds. I believe the weight gain resulted from carb cravings caused by the medication, and this seems to be a side effect of all the drugs in the SSRI class. It could also be what's responsible for my binge days, when low carb just isn't cutting the cravings enough.<BR/><BR/>Like Christine, you don't want to see me off medication, and I've pretty well resigned myself that I'll have to stay on medication my whole life. Depression caused by a chemical imbalance is never healed; it can merely be controlled with meds. And so I will have to deal with the cravings always as well. A very low carb diet (like Atkins) can help control the cravings, but sometimes they break through anyway.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13390991269990163088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1125710411083512592005-09-02T21:20:00.000-04:002005-09-02T21:20:00.000-04:00I haven't experienced any of the symptoms describe...I haven't experienced any of the symptoms described, nor do I know anyone else who has. I do think the tip to be sure you are getting enough vitamins is a good one. Costco carries a great product called B-50. It provides 50mg of all the B vitamins. I swear by this product. The label says "promotes energy" and it really does increase energy.<BR/>KalynKalyn Dennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02499065771517548587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1125422263987029842005-08-30T13:17:00.000-04:002005-08-30T13:17:00.000-04:00Thanks Jimmy! I really appreciate your shedding l...Thanks Jimmy! I really appreciate your shedding light on this subject and will anxiously check back for comments on this posting!<BR/><BR/>-DebiDebihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07835642341370503361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1125356308923218392005-08-29T18:58:00.000-04:002005-08-29T18:58:00.000-04:00One of the things I have noticed when low-carbing ...One of the things I have noticed when low-carbing (and I'm a huge advocate for low carbing, having lost 45 pounds myself on Atkins and formerly leading a local LC support group) is that I do not have vivid dreams when low-carbing. Or put another way, if I have a sugar binge after a long period of low-carbing, I find that I dream very vividly, where I wake up and distinctly remember the dream, and it's often much more "out there" than I otherwise have. Someone once told me that this had to do with seratonin levels.<BR/><BR/>However, during the day, my moods are on a much more even keel if I'm low-carbing. I will have mood swings transitioning from being off plan to an induction or OWL state, while my chemistry gets into whack and I transition into the state of ketosis, but otherwise, I'm much more stable when I'm low-carbing.Paulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00372166482718352771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1125332887153190002005-08-29T12:28:00.000-04:002005-08-29T12:28:00.000-04:00The only diet that ever put me into an actual "rag...The only diet that ever put me into an actual "rage" was when, as a teen, my mother put me on the Beverly Hills Diet. If I recall correctly it was a fruit-only, all-you-can-eat diet. The trick was you could only eat one kind of fruit each day. AARGH!<BR/><BR/>After two weeks, I actually smashed a plate of grapes against the wall.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11143149225842276791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1125325901577088072005-08-29T10:31:00.000-04:002005-08-29T10:31:00.000-04:00>>>I'll throw the door wide open on this one. Does...>>>I'll throw the door wide open on this one. Does anyone have any insight they would like to share with Debi about her condition?<<<<BR/><BR/>Three things come to mind - B3) Niacin; B12 and Folic Acid.<BR/><BR/>If she's following Atkins, she can get all these boosted by making sure she eats 10g net (deducting fiber) from leafy greens and other veggies on the Induction Foods list. Many make the mistake of limiting their veggies to just 2 cups salad and 1 cup vegetable even though Atkins says this is APPROXIMATE....if you look at the counts on the veggies, you often need to eat more (depending on what you choose) to meet that MINIMUM 10g NET (deducting only fiber) for vegetables as required in the Rules of Induction.<BR/><BR/>Best bets for B12 - red meats, fish, yogurt (plain)<BR/><BR/>Best bets for Folic Acid - leafy greens, asparagus, squash<BR/><BR/>Best bets for B3 - fish, asparagus, liver, turkey, leafy greens<BR/><BR/>Also good to supplement with a good, high quality multi-vitamin with high B-Complex and atleast 800mcg of Folic Acid.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09224160356421549054noreply@blogger.com