tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post115456111083067194..comments2024-02-18T15:43:14.717-05:00Comments on Moved to LivinLaVidaLowCarb.com/Blog: Fat People In Deep Denial About ObesityJimmy Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1154581541488664302006-08-03T01:05:00.000-04:002006-08-03T01:05:00.000-04:00Part of problem is the fact that most people these...Part of problem is the fact that most people these days don't even know what healthy foods are made of, what constitutes a normal portion size, or even what essential nutrients really are. Heck, some people cannot even cook a proper meal anymore! Houses are being designed and sold <I>without a kitchen</I>. What the heck are we thinking?<BR/><BR/>Most still believe the AHA and Food Pyramid crapola: if it's low in fat then it must be okay. <BR/><BR/>Ever since the Government started poking its nose in dietary advice and allowed and even encouraged heavily-"sponsored" organizations like the ADA and AHA to tout their baseless and unscientific nonsense like it was the gospel, like they have been for at least 3 decades, things have gone downhill - and fast. And it won't stop until finally there's some public awareness that one simply cannot trust Gov't and health "experts". It's really that simple. <BR/><BR/>That's why Jimmy's work is so important: he creates awareness and education about something still in it's infancy yet extremely powerful: the truth.Science4u1959https://www.blogger.com/profile/14032931049767819624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1154571885962695092006-08-02T22:24:00.000-04:002006-08-02T22:24:00.000-04:00When I say "confront," Dave, I certainly don't mea...When I say "confront," Dave, I certainly don't mean berate like that idiot client of yours. I'd have knock his head off if he said that to me, too. <BR/><BR/>But when obese people deny that they even have a problem and then have the audacity to think they are eating healthy, exercising right and living a healthy lifestyle, something is VERY wrong.<BR/><BR/>Whatever it takes to get people to WAKE UP to this problem, I am ALL for. WHATEVER it takes!Jimmy Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1154570644385016742006-08-02T22:04:00.000-04:002006-08-02T22:04:00.000-04:00I saw this article in the paper this morning, and ...I saw this article in the paper this morning, and figured you'd have a few words to say about it. :)<BR/><BR/>I don't think this survey tells the whole story about the people involved, and leaves out some very important questions. Nor do I think the blanket conclusion that obese people are in denial and/or lack understanding about what is a healthy diet or vigorous exercise is necessarly accurate either.<BR/><BR/>Did they bother to ask the people who were considered obese if they were actively participating in any kind of diet/exercise program? What percentage of the obese/morbidly obese participants who said they eat healthy and exercise vigrously were in the midst of losing weight, and just haven't dropped into the "normal" weight range yet? <BR/><BR/>The article simply doesn't say, so one assumes that the topic of whether you've been actively losing weight wasn't even broached in the survey, or that information <I>should</I> have been included in the analysis.<BR/><BR/>Another factor to consider is that the higher the "normal" weight range is for your height, the more latitude (in pounds) you have before you're considered to be obese. For instance, a woman with a small frame who is only 5'3" tall is considred obese if she is only 25 lbs over her "ideal" weight (20% overweight). However a 6'3", large framed man would not be considered to be obese unless he was at least 41 lbs overweight. Morbid obesity would be reached at 63 lbs overweight for our sample woman, but not until 110 lbs overweight for the man. Everything is relative. You don't need to weigh 300-400-500 lbs or more to be considered obese, for the purposes of this survey. <BR/><BR/>It doesn't look like the questions about eating out show enough variance between the normal weight participants and the obese participants to really be statistically significant for the purposes of this survey. If 4 times as many obese participants admitted to eating out so often and eating everything on their plates, then it might be significant, but these numbers of obese and normal weight particiapants who ate out and cleaned their plates are just too close to begin blaming obesity on eating out habits. <BR/><BR/>They also apparently didn't bother to ask the participants what constituted a healthy diet and vigorous exercise. <BR/><BR/>In short, I think this survey was just another biased look at obesity, where the assumption is that everyone who is overweight obviously isn't even trying. Yes, there are plenty who <I>have</I> given up and aren't even trying. But a lot of us who are actively losing weight,<I> are</I> indeed eating a healthy diet, and <I>are</I> indeed exercising vigorously several days a week, but just haven't reached the normal range. YET! As we all know, this takes time. I haven't run my BMI numbers recently, so I don't know if I've reached the merely obese range yet or not. But whether or not I'm still morbidly obese, or have finally passed below the magic threshold BMI number is immaterial, because had I been called for this survey, they would have just assumed that I was in denial about my exercise habits, and my diet, and nothing could be further from the truth.Caliannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00055882170095208056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-1154569831237742882006-08-02T21:50:00.000-04:002006-08-02T21:50:00.000-04:00Jimmy,Another perspective. I've lost 130 pounds, p...Jimmy,<BR/><BR/>Another perspective. I've lost 130 pounds, people applaud my effort - who know me.<BR/><BR/>But I am still morbidly obese. If I go out in public and meet someone for the first time, they will simply see me as someone who is grossly overweight.<BR/><BR/>I would be quite annoyed if so skinny idiot off the street or doctor decided to 'go off' at me, and lecture me about losing weight.<BR/><BR/>Why would they do that? Becaus ethey have 'judge' me based purely on my size.<BR/><BR/>I had a (potential) client in the office I was working at, start berrating me about my weight and telling me that I should lose weight. At the time I had lost about 45 pounds on Weight Watchers and I was still in the middle of doing that. I told him "I have, I've lost 45 Pounds". He just said snidely - "Well you need to do more". In the same conversation he also decided to put me down, about the way I pronounce my last name.<BR/><BR/>It turns out that this guys ended up not being a client of the firm. <BR/><BR/>I still regret to this day, that I did not get up and punch the guys lights out. I reckon I could have. I just took his crap because of my job.<BR/><BR/>Do you see my point?Lowcarb_davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02731513723761653022noreply@blogger.com