tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post7551197989460799835..comments2024-02-18T15:43:14.717-05:00Comments on Moved to LivinLaVidaLowCarb.com/Blog: Atkins Diet Doesn't Lack Butyrate, Increase Bowel Cancer Risk As Study AssertsJimmy Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-60763102322112048912007-07-01T12:42:00.000-04:002007-07-01T12:42:00.000-04:00THANKS for the update, Regina! :)THANKS for the update, Regina! :)Jimmy Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-14745238830371045032007-07-01T10:52:00.000-04:002007-07-01T10:52:00.000-04:00It is a small, unpublished, NON-clinical trial stu...<I>It is a small, unpublished, NON-clinical trial study.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>The work is published in Applied and Environmental Microbiology, 73:1073-8..https://www.blogger.com/profile/09224160356421549054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-21628242255414018252007-06-28T18:11:00.000-04:002007-06-28T18:11:00.000-04:00IIRC, the study about smokers was with beta carote...IIRC, the study about smokers was with beta carotene supplements - not the same as natural source Vitamin A, like from liver and such.<BR/><BR/>The really sad thing is that people WILL just read or hear the headlines and think they've learned something valuable. And why are they assuming that particular gut bacterias are protective against cancer?Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17268626403040745983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-64182634967355415572007-06-28T17:00:00.000-04:002007-06-28T17:00:00.000-04:00Little do we know that the Masai and Inuit are alm...Little do we know that the Masai and Inuit are almost extict from cancer. NOT :-) lolrenegadediabetichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11710855525093861921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-25576407211329153222007-06-28T16:36:00.000-04:002007-06-28T16:36:00.000-04:00Oh, and speaking of cancer treatment, one of my LJ...Oh, and speaking of cancer treatment, one of my LJ friends is suffering from late-stage breast cancer that has spread to her brain. She's still up and around and fairly active and very optimistic about her chances (deliberately so, determined to do everything she can to fight the disease), and she's seen me post about glucose and cancer cells. Found it all very interesting. What's she doing on the natural side of things to help treat her cancer? Macrobiotic diet.<BR/><BR/>*headdesk*<BR/><BR/>Yeah, "it's based on whole grains and it's SO GOOD for you," blah blah... well, guess what, brown rice has a high glycemic index too!<BR/><BR/>It's kinda like the naysayers who say it's OK to eat things like honey because "it's a natural sugar." Well, no, not if you're trying to avoid glucose-related health problems. Glucose is glucose, whether it starts as a "natural" sugar, a processed one, or a starch.<BR/><BR/>I don't like to think what her chances are. Even the macrobiotic movement has to admit that people have died of cancer on that diet. But I don't want to preach at her either. She really needs to feel supported right now.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02873453257184351629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-14922135066669665962007-06-28T16:28:00.000-04:002007-06-28T16:28:00.000-04:00My reading has led me to believe that not only doe...My reading has led me to believe that not only does going low-carb reduce your chances of dying from cancer but that some of the OTHER things the "experts" tell us about dietary cancer prevention are hogwash. Not only have medical researchers known for decades that cancer cells need more glucose than normal cells, they have also noticed that cancer cells suffer more from oxidative stress. That's right: It looks like cancer cells both create more free radicals AND suffer more free radical damage. Glucose seems to work together with certain antioxidant chemicals, which would make it attractive to cancer cells as a means of staying alive longer.<BR/><BR/>Here's news about the relevant ongoing study: http://www.uihealthcare.com/news/news/2004/05/17glucose.html<BR/><BR/>This really makes me wonder about the study that came out years ago about smokers getting lung cancer more often when they supplemented vitamin A. Since A is also an antioxidant, what if it's protective of lung cancer cells? Sure, we <I>need</I> it in our diet, but an awful lot of supplement formulas out there provide it in overly large amounts.<BR/><BR/>Someone on a low-carb diet who also supplements is probably more OK than someone on a high-carb diet doing the same thing. That said, I think it is long past time for the natural health industry to undergo a serious overhaul. And the first thing they can do is start relying on empirical data rather than making assumptions based on "everybody knows" and "common sense" and your random sprinkling of non-clinical trial studies.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02873453257184351629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-41739661171024826042007-06-28T12:24:00.000-04:002007-06-28T12:24:00.000-04:00I suppose what the researches are saying is that b...I suppose what the researches are saying is that before the advent of processed flours and sugar, i.e. white bread and candy bars, everyone had colon cancer? <BR/><BR/>That's just ridiculous.<BR/><BR/>With the amount of fresh vegetables that I eat on a daily basis, I get better nutrition now than I have ever had in my life! 20 grams of carbs a day from veggies is a LOT of fiber and nutrients! Why don't they get that?<BR/><BR/>The presumption that Atkins = eating bacon all day long is getting old!Morgan MacLeoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00420573653218275720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-65730209053771365632007-06-28T09:49:00.000-04:002007-06-28T09:49:00.000-04:00>>>7. Diets that are very low in carbs actually TR...>>>7. Diets that are very low in carbs actually TREAT cancer.<<<<BR/><BR/>Purely anecdotal, of course, but when my dog was diagnosed with cancer of the spleen I did some research on diet and cancer and promptly switched her to a very low-carb homemade diet. <BR/><BR/>The prognosis for this type of cancer is very poor, the vet estimated 6-8 weeks for her. However, she lived for 3 1/2 months post-diagnosis,and was in good shape up 'till the last few days. When I brought her in to be euthanized, the vet commented on how she still had good weight and muscle mass and a shiny coat, not what you usually see with a dog in the last stages of cancer. I am convinced that her diet played a part in how long she lasted and how otherwise healthy she was during that time.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07744211585738470599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-81937835086795297852007-06-28T08:39:00.000-04:002007-06-28T08:39:00.000-04:00Ah, another one of these so-called studies that re...Ah, another one of these so-called studies that really isn't one. The very fact that this "researcher" is already convinced that carbohydrate "deprivation" causes colon cancer doesn't leave much doubt regarding the outcome, doesn't it? Clearly he's another one of these "essential carbohydrates" believers. Not based on any science known to man, mind you.<BR/><BR/>Arguments like this keep popping up all over the place - most of them from poorly informed health "professionals" and quasi-scientific studies like this. I've heard it all before. It is always the same lame arguments, these same simplistic reasoning, and the same total absence of hard, irrifutable, controlled clinical data. <BR/><BR/>It's the same story as the "calcium washing out the bones" bogus from a few years back. That was repeated over and over again by our misinformed friends in the media - even after the REAL scientists and researchers had disproven it - in fact it was proven that bone health improved on low-carb: the exact opposite.<BR/><BR/>The same applies to this nonsense. In fact science has proven that it is high-fiber, low-fat diets that cause colon cancer. The famous independant UK researcher dr Barry Groves got colon cancer, many years ago, on the recommended low-fat, high-fiber diet. He subsequently switched, against all doctors advice, to a high-fat, low-carb diet and overcame the cancer. His flabbergasted doctors couldn't believe it. <BR/><BR/>When I have some time this weekend I will do some research and post some real scientific data regarding colon health on low-carb - just to show that this "study" is complete hogwash.Science4u1959https://www.blogger.com/profile/14032931049767819624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-43815977194785813092007-06-28T01:35:00.000-04:002007-06-28T01:35:00.000-04:00This is an exceptionally good post at refuting thi...This is an exceptionally good post at refuting this threadbare study with a boatload of plain, straightforward, common sense facts, and as good a post as you have ever written, Jimmy. <BR/><BR/>Any diet that reverses ALL known symptoms of metabolic syndrome within days, as demonstrated about low carb rather conclusively by Volek and Feinman in 2005, is no health risk, but rather our only true health solution. Low carb is the ONLY diet to achieve such radical improvement on all markers of disease. After 40 years of practice, no actual health risks of low carb have ever been demonstrated or recorded. <BR/><BR/>The conclusion is undeniably clear, excess carb consumption is THE single, primary chemical cause for the entire 20th century syndrome of disease, a syndrome which, after 70 years of study, otherwise remains a baffling mystery to science. <BR/><BR/>We are surrounded and overwhelmed by evidence supporting low carb, yet we continue to ignore it. Clearly our medical system is failed and unworthy of public trust.Kevin M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04275512513793292888noreply@blogger.com