tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post2313661199383777261..comments2024-02-18T15:43:14.717-05:00Comments on Moved to LivinLaVidaLowCarb.com/Blog: Study: Drinking Fruit Juice Worse Than Sugary Soda For Type 2 Diabetes RiskJimmy Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-79977209162441045952009-02-27T00:38:00.000-05:002009-02-27T00:38:00.000-05:00The best "fruit" juice out there for low carbers i...The best "fruit" juice out there for low carbers is Ocean Spray diet Crangrape, Cranberry and Grape sweetened with Splenda. O carbs, 0 everything and good for you too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-15289843028448256512008-09-23T11:59:00.000-04:002008-09-23T11:59:00.000-04:00lol, I can't believe you thought SunnyD was juice....lol, I can't believe you thought SunnyD was juice. It doesn't even taste like juice! It tastes awful, actual orange juice tastes really good.<BR/>I also can't believe you think it's ok to drink TOXIC diet sodas and sugar free things with toxic artificial sweeteners like splenda...<BR/><BR/>Why not eat a natural diet without all those disgusting supplements and artificial sweeteners and junk? Too many addictions.<BR/>Low carb, high fat, natural diet is the way to go. Not a diet filled with Atkins shakes, diet sodas, and whatever other toxic junk you can use to satisfy your addictions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-29937079388037047152008-08-04T09:42:00.000-04:002008-08-04T09:42:00.000-04:00Hey Jimmmy - don't worry, I know you have nothing ...Hey Jimmmy - don't worry, I know you have nothing against fruit ;-) What I meant to say was that although I agree with Matt's point about distinguishing between sweetened fruit juice and unadulterated fruit juice, <I>nevertheless</I> I don't regard either of them as being something we should consume. For me it's good old fresh fruit every time. Ever tried 'dragon fruit'? It's a subtle flavour, which makes me suspect it's probably insulin friendly...<BR/><BR/>Methuselah<BR/><A HREF="http://paynowlivelater.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Pay Now Live Later</A>Methuselahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09134860337125242027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-25805263338493715562008-08-03T12:33:00.000-04:002008-08-03T12:33:00.000-04:00Don't get me wrong, I am not saying don't eat frui...Don't get me wrong, I am not saying don't eat fruit. Certain fruits like berries and melons are an excellent food to eat on a low-carb lifestyle. But juicing it concentrates the sugar content and makes it worse for you than eating it whole. :)Jimmy Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-12458493662002024172008-08-03T12:04:00.000-04:002008-08-03T12:04:00.000-04:00Matt's point is an good one - the media is forever...Matt's point is an good one - the media is forever conflating 'sugar' with 'sugars'. A typical example of this was seen in a recent documentary on Channel 4 in the UK, in which the amount of 'sugars' in a smoothie was described as '12 teaspoons of sugar'. It was not made clear whether this was refined sugar that had been added, or the naturally ocurring sugar - yet this is important, as refined sugar does deserve special vilification: <A HREF="http://paynowlivelater.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-sugar-is-bad-some-references.html" REL="nofollow">Why (Refined) Sugar is Bad: Some References</A>.<BR/><BR/>Nevertheless, even in its unadulterated form, fruit juice must surely have been something we did not consume until very recently in our evolution - it would simply not have ocurred naturally. So although this study has not shown it to affect the chances of getting diabetes, I for one will continue to eat fruit in its normal form because it just feels right.Methuselahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09134860337125242027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-38943213847493684722008-08-01T23:16:00.000-04:002008-08-01T23:16:00.000-04:00I completely agree with Matt on this one. Most jui...I completely agree with Matt on this one. Most juice you find in the store in nothing but sugar water!JBERGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08659936875885363477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-18823682206441386362008-08-01T20:18:00.000-04:002008-08-01T20:18:00.000-04:00Real life anecdote: My mother, sister, and I lived...Real life anecdote: My mother, sister, and I lived with my grandparents until I was 8 years old, when my mother remarried. Food at Grandma's house was mostly natural and low-sugar, although not low-carb by any stretch. Still, we drank real orange juice, ate low-sugar cereals for breakfast (and eggs), and generally had soup and sandwiches for lunch, meat and vegetables for dinner. Occasionally we had dessert, but often just had fruit. When my mother remarried, she finally had the chance to do things "her way" and succumbed to the processed foods that were a part of the modern 1960s' home. Now my sister and I ate sugared cereal. The real juice was replaced with Hi-C. We started eating Wonder Bread. And of course my mother was intent on impressing her new husband with her baking abilities, so we had cakes and pies every night. Both she and my dad gained 30+ pounds over the winter, and so did I! And of course, my pediatrician suggested that I just "push myself away from the table." I'm reminded of what Jonny Bowden had to say about how your body is affected differently by 100 calories of potato chips or 100 calories of broccoli. Not that I'd consider consuming a cup of juice today in any event, but I think for a lot of people that don't seem to have blood sugar issues (yet), it boils down to what kind of juice they're drinking and how much. I do wish, though, that people would stop equating the carbohydrates in milk with those in apple and orange juice. Real milk has protein and fat, and <I>half</I> the carbohydrates of a glass of real orange juice. If kids drank milk instead of apple juice, we wouldn't have such fat kids, or kids who have poor bone structure and need orthodontia, or young adults with osteoporosis. The trend away from consuming fat (milk) to consuming the much more "healthy" apple juice has proven to be a bust to children's health.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-34202144597887077552008-08-01T16:39:00.000-04:002008-08-01T16:39:00.000-04:00A glass of Orange Juice and a glass of Apple Juic...A glass of Orange Juice and a glass of Apple Juice and a glass of Pop and a glass of Kool-Aid and a glass of Milk are all the same thing! -- Almost pure carbohydrates! -- Shocking news when first heard and not easy to swallow and hardly believed, but factually the truth!Tom Bunnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840576840382147883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-58645626850055328742008-08-01T14:33:00.000-04:002008-08-01T14:33:00.000-04:00It may not be "groundbreaking" to people like you ...It may not be "groundbreaking" to people like you and me, Matt. But how many people drink Sunny D and other "fruit drinks" assuming they are healthy? Still far too many.Jimmy Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-55637471389636364572008-08-01T14:17:00.000-04:002008-08-01T14:17:00.000-04:00In the study, consumption of pure fruit juice was ...In the study, consumption of pure fruit juice was not linked to a higher rate of diabetes. Consumption of sugar-sweetened fruit drinks was linked. From this, it would seem very likely that the problem is the added sugar, and nothing to do with fruit juice per se.<BR/><BR/>The study could have been summed up as "sugar increases the risk of diabetes", which is hardly groundbreaking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-35299988387255733832008-08-01T13:11:00.000-04:002008-08-01T13:11:00.000-04:00You'll notice I cited Sunny D in my post--a fruit ...You'll notice I cited Sunny D in my post--a fruit drink that is marketed as healthy. I hear your point, but I must ask what the difference really is.Jimmy Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08590225257991702645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12333976.post-27055008921199614502008-08-01T12:34:00.000-04:002008-08-01T12:34:00.000-04:00Did you even read this study? There is a big diff...Did you even read this study? There is a big difference between fruit juice and a sugar-sweetened fruit drink. From the study:<BR/><BR/>"Women who consumed 2 or more soft drinks per day had a 24% increase in incidence relative to women who drank less than 1 soft drink per month. A similar association was observed for sweetened fruit drinks, with a 31% increase observed for 2 or more drinks per day relative to less than 1 drink per month. Consumption of orange and grapefruit juice and of diet soft drinks was not associated with diabetes risk. "<BR/><BR/>The title of your blog post using "fruit juice" instead of "fruit drink" is inaccurate and misleading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com