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Tuesday, June 05, 2007

With My Weight Rising, I've Turned To Kimkins

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27 Comments:

Blogger mrfritznyc said...

congratulations jimmy... I am sure you'll do well... I am actually starting my own semi-kimkins this week too, how about that? I've played around with it before and lost some gained some lost some... but now I am getting serious, I am even cutting out the booze for a while. I am not going the lean meats route tho, that is asking too much! I just try to eat all of the meats and vegetables that i really like but only enough to keep the hunger away, and NO MORE! I find that if I stop eating while I am still just a little bit hungry, the hunger goes away in a few minutes and I am fine for hours.

anyway, good luck!

6/05/2007 8:19 AM  
Blogger DietKing2 said...

Hang in there, Jimmy--I'm sure you'll do just fine--I'm with you, man! It's always good to keep learning and seeking new ways to fight the ongoing battle--you're not alone!
Adam

6/05/2007 10:34 AM  
Blogger Jimmy Moore said...

THANKS mrfritznyc! I'm glad to see you are refocusing your efforts on this, too (WOW, no booze! LOL!).

I'm giving Kimkins as prescribed a go with the leaner meats. We shall see how it goes. So far, it's GREAT!

Let me know how you're doing every once in a while.

6/05/2007 10:36 AM  
Blogger mrfritznyc said...

we'll see how far I get with the no booze thing when the weekend comes around, heh heh.... as for my progress, maybe I'll get active with the kimkins forums again... look for "mrfreddy"...

6/05/2007 10:49 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Hey Jimmy. Welcome (back?) to Kimkins. I don't need to sell you on the virtues of Kimkins. Good luck in your quest.

Lisa- aka scaleslave
http://scaleslave.wordpress.com

6/05/2007 11:38 AM  
Blogger Gary J said...

This is amazing, Jimmy. Somehow you and I are traveling in tandem ever since I signed up for the 30-in-30 challenge. When I signed up, I was around 230, went down to 227, then bounced up to 239. That was around the same time you were skipping days to get to 215. I thought I had lost the competition I had set up in my head, then I noticed you bounce up too.

In the meantime, I was getting annoyed that I was doing my low-carb plan faithfully, increased my cardio, and couldn't get below 227. I consulted informally (on the net) with Dr. Eades, who advised me that older guys (I'm 57) might have all kinds of crap accumulated in the cells that might cause extra resistance in losing weight. I was temporarily demoralized, but ultimately I didn't buy Dr. Eades' assertion, not for me, at least. I just felt like there was something I was missing in my low-carb plan.

And then I reviewed Kimkins and didn't quite get that it was Stillman added to Atkins. Indeed I had had experience with Stillman's quick-weight-loss plans from my youth, but it was one way of losing weight that had faded into memory.

Last week, while viewing the Kimkins website "makeover", somewhere I uncovered that Kimkins was a combination of Atkins and Stillman. (I think this was from one of your own blog entries that I had read and somehow glanced over the Stillman aspect.) Anyway, it gave me the idea to apply Stillman's ideas to what I already use in Atkins. And, wow, I went from 237 to 232 in a few days.

Admittedly, some of this may be water, but I can feel the difference - I wasn't getting into ketosis with Atkins alone, but by restricting calories, I am easily in ketosis. So I'm off and running. I wish you the same experience!

p.s. What I draw from this experiment is that low-carb does indeed provide a metabolic advantage, but if you need even fewer calories, then caloric restriction is going to be necessary. The pleasant part of caloric restriction is that low-carb has somehow prepared me for it, and the less I eat, the less hungry I am.

6/05/2007 11:53 AM  
Blogger The Bunnell Farm said...

It doesn't surprise me much with all the caffeine and sweetener and carbohydrates minus fiber that you eat. Atkins would turn over in his grave. Your sweet and stimulant addiction(your diverted sugar and caffeine addiction)is killing you. Now your going to cut back on fat to try to compensate. Try not being high on caffeine and sweetener and carbohydrates(pure sugar)(minus fiber)all the time and see what the real world is like. It's pretty basic but it's also pretty good. Pretty Damn good. We have been high for so long we think that it's normal and that not being high is abnormal. Atkins made a lot of concessions himself caving in to public pressure and his own desires. We can live to be a hundred being high and denieing it the whole way. We got addicted as infants on our first solid food and drinks other than mothers milk. I'm not turning on you Jimmy, far from it--your a real champion. You just got to find your focus. All the marketers and promoters of there own sugar and caffeine addictions and products and beliefs got you. Now the Kimkins diverters have you. Follow God, not Kimkins. Your struggle will be over. Your inate being and God are one and the same. Best to you. Tom(alcohol is pure sugar)and sugar addicts.

6/05/2007 11:53 AM  
Blogger The Bunnell Farm said...

If you took all the alcohol(pure sugar) addicts and all the caffeine addicts(pure stimulant) and all the modern hybrid carbohydrate addicts (pure sugar) if you took all these people out of this world there wouldn't be anybody left. That's how big this thing is.

6/05/2007 12:00 PM  
Blogger Jimmy Moore said...

With all due respect, Tom, nobody will "have me" but me. I've decided to do this on my own, in my way, because it's what works for me.

If consuming no artificial sweeteners or caffeine works for you, then GO FOR IT! But your constant hyperbole about this issue is quite nauseating (much more than any "stimulants" I am putting in my mouth).

Good for you that you can live that way. But don't think anyone has "got" me--I do what I think is best for Jimmy Moore.

All the best to you as well as you live your life as you see fit. In a world that doesn't care about consuming sugar and excessive carbs, we have a lot bigger fish to fry.

6/05/2007 12:05 PM  
Blogger Jimmy Moore said...

It's only been a day so far, Gary, but it just feels right. You are wise to be following this. I'm gonna pass you quickly, so you better remain vigilant. :D

6/05/2007 12:09 PM  
Blogger Neal Winkler said...

Jimmy,

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I remember you saying that you do long-distance/steady state cardio (e.g. jogging 5 miles or whatever). If so, this is an ineffective tool in the battle against weight loss, IMO. If you want to lose fat through exercise the most productive method is resistance training and high intensity interval training. I know you've blogged about inteterval training before and said that you could probably do it, and I agree, I think you could since you've been doing steady-state for a while now. That interval training burns 2-3 times more fat while doing half the work or less has been documented time and time again in studies. I think you should give it a try. If you have any questions about this type of training feel free to mail me trianglechoke7@gmail.com. You've given me much information so I have no problem returning the favor. :-)

All the best,

Neal

6/05/2007 12:11 PM  
Blogger Jimmy Moore said...

THANKS, Neal! While I have enjoyed my cardio in the past, it has been more of a challenge recently. Frankly I haven't gotten as much of it into my schedule as I would like, but I'm working on that. Once I get my diet in order with Kimkins, I'll hit this aspect of my fitness routine again. THANK YOU again!

6/05/2007 12:17 PM  
Blogger The Bunnell Farm said...

The whole thing about us all being differant and each of us finding our own way is the perfect cop out or denial to discard any truth that comes our way or gets in the way of our addictions. Our addictions scream out, he just knows for him, not me! Then of course the addiction has it's way and the end of all that.

6/05/2007 12:18 PM  
Blogger mrfritznyc said...

since you're shaking things up Jimmy, maybe you should consider following the Drs. Eades' advice and ditch the cardio all together! It has been shown again and again to be a poor weight loss tool. Proper strength training 2x week (25 minutes each) and diet are all you need. Really. Check out "Slowburn Fitness Revolution" by the Eades and Fred Hahn. It's working great for me, so far.

6/05/2007 12:29 PM  
Blogger Jimmy Moore said...

I actually already have (except for a game of volleyball and basketball each week) given up on cardio and recently hired a personal trainer to help with strength resistance training. The high-protein content of Kimkins will be an added bonus when I get hot and heavy into the weight lifting. But I do love my cardio, too! :)

6/05/2007 12:37 PM  
Blogger Neal Winkler said...

Whoops, I said "battle against fat loss." Why would you want to battle against it? LOL. One last thing and I will be out of your hair: you wouldn't add interval training to your current cardio routine (if that's what you meant by "I've got enough of it in my scheduale as I would like"), you would replace it. So, you would actually be spending a significantly less amount time exercising if you switched to intervals.

I'll leave you alone now. :-)

Neal

6/05/2007 12:37 PM  
Blogger Jimmy Moore said...

I knew what you meant, Neal. Actually, I'm already moving from almost 100% cardio to weight training and believe it is going to help. THANK YOU again for your comments.

6/05/2007 12:39 PM  
Blogger The Bunnell Farm said...

Your a heavy hitter Jimmy, hang in there.

6/05/2007 12:49 PM  
Blogger Gary J said...

" I'm gonna pass you quickly, so you better remain vigilant. :D"

Jimmy, dem is fightin' wurds! Watch it, buster!

6/05/2007 6:02 PM  
Blogger Jimmy Moore said...

Be afraid, Gary, be VERY afraid! 8-O

6/05/2007 6:32 PM  
Blogger Science4u1959 said...

I know that you will do very well Jimmy! And I think you'll like the resistance training. Remember tho that muscle mass is heavier than fat... so your weight isn't the ultimate measure. If you're interested in the athletic aspects, I just posted a rather eleborate rant about it in response to Kamran. You might find it useful. All the best!

6/05/2007 6:50 PM  
Blogger Gary J said...

And here's a handy tip from Gary:

One of the biggest "tricks" to weight loss is focusing intensely on food (i.e. your diet) while deemphasizing the role of food as the center of your existence.

How this plays out for me:

I try to enjoy food intensely when I eat it, particularly when I'm eating in the reduced quantities of Atkins-Stillman (or Kimkins, except that I'm not following Kimkins specifically).

When I'm not eating, I work at not thinking about food. How do you not think about something? Well, that's one of the tricks. :*)

6/05/2007 7:13 PM  
Blogger Kevin said...

It's perfecctly fine to experiment and try different angles Jimmy, the fact is that low carb is virgin territory, none of us really knows much about its fine-tuning for every individual circumstance. Just using Atkins blindly can be like using a mallet on a finishing nail. And Kimkins seems to be onto something, she may have hit on the next big improvement.

I did not know about Stillman diets, so that was good to learn about from these posts. I gather they are high-protein, low-cal diets? That is a much clearer way to describe exactly what is different about Kimkins, which will be very important to explain to the curious public and yellow journalists.

I'd like to see more background on Stillman diets and interval training, I admit I'm ignorant about them.

My only concern is that you are still obsessing about the extra weight when it is probably just the extra skin weight. That skin may need a good deal of fat to support it, so it may not make any sense to be trying to lose this weight if that skin can't live on its own. Plus you said you stopped your cardio, so that may explain the most recent weight creep. So it may be inadvisable or unhealthy to force your weight down while retaining a large amount of extra skin, but I'll be happy for you if you prove me wrong.

Kimkins will do more to establish the superiority of LC in the popular awareness than all the academic researchers and science bloggers combined, so I hope she and the world will take her plan as far as it will go.

6/06/2007 1:39 AM  
Blogger Kamran said...

Jimmy, I notice that alot of your blogs are about low-carb treats. Maybe the treats were the reason for the weight gain?

Did you ever try going back to induction? Dr. Mauro Di Pasquale, who I think is one step ahead of Dr. Atkins, says, that once in ketosis, you can greatly reduce the dietary fat intake, but you'll still burn body fat. Kimkins, from what I know is all about starvation calorie levels, so although Kimkins has the right idea, in lowering the fat intake for maximum fat oxidization, her calorie levels are just outright crazy. I wish you luck in what I hope is a MODIFIED version of kimkins (no starvation calorie levels, and you're good to go)

and also, you gotta not skip out on the resistance training as science4u said. Low-calorie low-carbing damaged my metabolism, and weight resistance saved my life. So good luck in all of it. Don't do excessive aerobics either like most low-carbers. It'll just end up in muscle loss, and you never want that. Wish you all the best!

6/06/2007 6:31 AM  
Blogger Jimmy Moore said...

THANKS for your comments Kamran. I disagree that the "low-carb treats" are necessarily the source of my slight weight gain. I've eaten these throughout the past three years and have held my weight steady until lately.

But you hit it on the head--I never returned back to Induction to get the weight back down. With Kimkins, I am in ketosis again and the fat is being burned. YEAH!

Just so you know, only two of the five versions of Kimkins are low-calorie. The rest of them, including the one I am doing, have no limitations on calories.

As I stated, I hired a personal trainer to help me with resistance training, so I've got that one covered, too.

THANKS for your concern and sharing your wisdom on this issue.

6/06/2007 8:32 AM  
Blogger roseanchorage said...

Jimmy, I don't know if you remember me; I'm the one with the Newfoundland Service Dog to pull my wheelchair. I gained (and now lost) 30lbs in the past 10yrs (6 yrs of which I've been mostly in a wheelchair) and I showed a start of blood pressure problems because of it. Additionally, it is extrememly difficult to lose weight without exercise which drastically lowers energy availability for "normal" tasks.

Every time I dieted, my body would adjust to the lower calories, and/or lower carbs, and I had to restrict my intake even further in order to lose any weight. If I had it to do over again, I would definitely take advantage of online tracking capabilities to start with. I would faithfully track both carbs and calories, and keep my calories just low enough to SLOWLY lose weight but as high as possible, even during induction. With me, whether my carbs were below 10g with lean meat or with what they call a fat fast, AND with my calories below 1000, I did not lose any weight.

Then, last year during your Aug '06 30-in-30 challenge (a big THANK YOU! for extra motivation) I finally broke the stall by the process they call cycling, and the tracking capabilities of http://forum.lowcarber.org/myplan.php?
(which is where I saw that you started a new Way Of Eating).

Since January, I am back to the healthy weight I carried in most of my adult years, and my energy level (and blood pressure) shows that I am carrying less pounds.

In the past months, I have built up my tolerance to almost 1300 daily calories without gaining (from less than 1000) and I'm currently at 70g net carbs. I think there are definite advantages to SLOWLY losing the weight and quickly finding where your carb tolerance is, then NOT lowering those tolerance levels. Otherwise you just become an "easy keeper", and can gain weight on very few calories even with a low carb count (and few sugar alcohols, dairy, or caffeine)!

Love in Christ,
Bella and Blessing, the wheelchair Service Dog

6/06/2007 12:00 PM  
Blogger Jimmy Moore said...

THANKS for sharing your comments, Rose, and CONGRATS!

6/06/2007 12:50 PM  

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