Despite Brouhaha, Kimkins Diet Generates 25-Pound Weight Loss In First Three Weeks
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Labels: Atkins, calories, eades, Kimkins, low-calorie, low-carb, low-fat, weight loss
posted by Jimmy Moore at
6/25/2007 11:33:00 AM
35 Comments:
jimmy, you can probably take comfort in knowing you've lost more weight than all of your most vocal attackers COMBINED, hahaaa!!!
personally, I think you'll find it hard to stay under 198 via Atkins maintenance, but at least you'll have a good idea of what it takes for you to get there. Then you can decide if it's worth it to you.
Good luck, and maybe I'll knuckle down myself - I've been kinda half-assedly trying to change my habits, and getting half assedy results!
It's all an ongoing journey for me, Mr. Fritz, so we'll keep truckin' along. One thing's for sure, I'll ALWAYS eat low-carb! :D
"...recognizing when I am actually satisfied with the amount of food I have eaten"
that's a powerful little statement right there...and all too often this is the one place where many of us fail, regardless of what plan we are on. congratulations jimmy on being self-aware enough to embrace this insightful realization--it will serve you well both now in ongoing weight loss AND in maintenance!
There isn't any other way except low-carb! Sugar is poison. Carbs are hybrid sugar poison. Simple as that!
Jimmy,
It's working for you, right? And just like you told me a few weeks ago when I was bitching to you, "hey, it's(the scale)moving the right way, isn't it?
Stop defending yourself so hard.
I believe in you;-)
Adam
THANKS Adam! I wouldn't say I'm defending myself, but rather clarifying for those folks who may have bought into the hype being spewed forth by the anti-Kimkins detractors.
It really doesn't matter to me what they think of me doing Kimkins. I pay the bills in my house, so I live my life day-by-day in my way as the good Lord intended. :)
Good for you, Jimmy. Even if I don't want you to lose weight faster than I am on my own low-carb, lower-fat diet. And you are beating me. But I remain undaunted! :*)
I do have two cents for you. Consider not adding things back in to the diet as you approach your goal. Consider waiting until you get 198, then add back. I'm thinking like this because from my experience, the last pounds to come off are the hardest. Vigilance will pay off here.
Good point, Gary. But I guess I should have added the caveat "as long as I'm STILL losing" to that. Obviously if I stall within 10 pounds of goal, those things will be the first to go. :D THANKS!
I'm at 223. And you? ;p
You just do one thing for us Jimmy! You don't fall over dead with a heart attack or end up paralyzed with a stroke from laying into this thing to hard and to fast. Were talking lifetimes here! The difference between two months and four months and six months getting to 198# is negligible when it comes to our health. You got it! Congratulations!
I'm not doing anything except working the plan, Tom. If it happens a year from now or by the end of next month, I don't care. It's just gonna happen!
Super!
Good going Jimmy!!!
Personally I like my fat and protein high and my carbs low. Works for me. Glad to hear this works for you!
228 and losing quickly. Always remember the rabbit and the turtle.
Hey Jimmy, following your example I started Kimkins 5 days ago. My target weight loss is 42 lb. (from 200 to 160 @ 5'10") and I already lost 11. And I cheated, eating cheese, bacon and two slices of whole wheat toast. Tell the naysayers to go fly a kite.
Congratulations, Jimmy! Well done on your efforts in this phase of maintaining a healthy lifestyle!
P.S. I hope you don't consider me amongst the "negative naysayers". If I question, it is solely to learn truth and to educate myself. I wish you nothing but success and health!
Way to go, Jimmy! You are a real inspiration and encouragement to all who are conquering their weight problems. I, for one, really appreciate your honesty in living your life openly before so many people, making the path easier for the rest of us!
Thanks!
THANKS CB, but no you are not amongst that group I was referring to because you were simply asking questions. Being inquisitive and curious about something you want to learn more about is a natural part of the learning process.
But the characters I described in this post have been nothing but argumentative, confrontational for the stake of spreading fear, and have no desire to engage in a healthy discussion.
I'm all for debate when it stays above the fray. Unfortunately, most of the Kimkins comments have been personal attacks against me, Kimmer, and the entire membership at Kimkins. That is uncalled for.
THANK YOU again for adding to the conversation, CB. I appreciate you! :)
to be fair, jimmy, there are valid concerns regarding Kimkins plans as described on their site (some are extremely low calorie), and also as to her exact identity (there's a picture of someone with a completely different name on classmates.com that looks exactly like her before pic), and even as to whether or not she has really lost all that weight, and whether or not the very few after pics you see are really her (they dont look much like her, nor do they look much like any 48 yr. old woman), etc. etc. An objective look at the evidence at hand does lead to some serious questions in these areas. there is simply no getting around this.
none of this has much to do, however, with the fact that most folks can improve on their Atkins results by moderating caloric intake, with any method you choose, be it Kimkins, protein sparing fast, whatever...
Jimmie,
What low-carber or any dieter hasn't had to tweek their program in the long haul? We all do what works best for us. I wish you continued success. By the way, I recently read an old copy of "Thin So Fast" and was considering it but couldn't handle the powdered milk part. Your information today was so timely for me, I'm going to give it a try. You are one lc resource I couldn't do without!
Hey Jimmy,
I'm still having trouble accessing the boards, but wanted to come by and congratulate you on your continued success. I also had a big moment this morning when I offically hit Onderland! I don't care what anybody says, KimKins works!!
Alli
aka "AlliCat"
Today at 227, Jimmy. Be afraid, be very afraid!!
WOO HOO!!! You go Alli! Are you sure you aren't damaging your health? HA! ;)
THANKS bafaucher! I wish you well on your pursuit and Dr. Eades has said doing that plan is so much easier today than it was when he originally wrote that book. I like the Responsibly Slim protein powder from Primal Nutrition if you are looking for a high-quality, great-tasting one. Best wishes to you and THANK YOU for your kind comments!
THANKS for your comments, Mr. Fritz. And I have been very clear to distinguish between the personalities involved with the Kimkins diet and the actual diet itself. I'm only interested in the latter and couldn't care less about the former.
The fact is this way of eating is working for me and that's all the evidence and proof I need to keep on doing it. THANK YOU again for clarifying that issue.
I'm sooooo quaking in my boots, Gary! NOT! I was down another pound today reaching 222. That's 26 pounds lost in 22 days on Kimkins. ;)
That's Kimkins but isn't it also Atkins induction diet(1972). Eat all the meat you want but little if any carbohydrates and drink only water.
Congratulations Jimmy! I knew you had the wisdom and fortitude to get those last few pounds off. I think some of the anti-Kimkins critics are mad because others are having successful experiences.
How typical, I've had people criticize me at my blog for taking supplements because, I quote "some people can't afford them." Talk about negativity. If you really want something you'll find a way.
THANKS, Carol! I'm done making rationalizations for why I can't lose those last few pounds and now I'm doing something pro-active to remedy that problem for me. It may not be for everyone, but it's right for me. Right now, that's all that matters. :) THANK YOU for your support!
Key take-home points in Dr. Mike Eades' response:
"Thin So Fast was superceded first by Protein Power then the PPLP."
"I've had a couple of brain transplants since the Thin So Fast days."
"Each book is more or less an update of all the ones before."
And I don't recall seeing a section on PSMF in either PP or PPLP, and I'm sure that the good Drs. Eades had a very good reason for that.
-David
"That's Kimkins but isn't it also Atkins induction diet(1972). Eat all the meat you want but little if any carbohydrates and drink only water."
Atkins 1972 (consistent through all updates) had no restriction on fat (as do ALL of Kimkins plans) and no restrictions on calories (as explicit in 3 plans and implicit in the other 2).
Also veggies are eaten from the start in Atkins 1972 and ramped up after only ONE week. In that version, veggies were considered "insignificant" carb intake and really didn't have to be counted.
So, no...Kimkins (K/E or any other version) really isn't Atkins 1972 at all.
-David
The "brain transplants" that Dr. Eades refers to are his position about trans fat (used to think it was healthy, now he doesn't) and saturated fat (used to think it was unhealthy, now he doesn't).
But as I noted regarding his intermittent fast advocacy last year, Dr. Eades is still quite in favor of calorie reduction as part of a healthy lifestyle. I couldn't do it, but he advocates it.
Perhaps you should ask him directly what he thinks, David. I'd be happy to print what he says here at my blog. :)
"The "brain transplants" that Dr. Eades refers to are his position about trans fat (used to think it was healthy, now he doesn't) and saturated fat (used to think it was unhealthy, now he doesn't)."
And he also made it entirely clear that PP and PPLP supercede TSF and neither of the PP books contain anything about going on a liquid protein starvation diet. Sounds like another "brain transplant" (change of mind) to me.
"But as I noted regarding his intermittent fast advocacy last year, Dr. Eades is still quite in favor of calorie reduction as part of a healthy lifestyle. I couldn't do it, but he advocates it.
Perhaps you should ask him directly what he thinks, David. I'd be happy to print what he says here at my blog."
No need for me to ask as I read the articles on his blog too. The caloric reduction he was talking about (including the effective reduction when using intermittent fasting) was staying at about 90-95% of Active Metabolic Rate. Not a metabolic starvation diet of about 50% of Basal Metabolic Rate which is exactly what Kimkins promotes, and even explicitly requires under three of five of the plans.
Clearly a major difference between what Mike Eades was advocating and what Kimkins advocates.
-David
Jimmy, I am extremely disappointed in your nihilistic diet approach.
In one of your blogs, you stated that at 231 lb. you had 11% body fat. Thus, you have 206 lb. of lean mass. I can accept you losing weight to 225 lb., which would give you single digit body fat percentage and a male model’s physique.
However, if you persist in your lunacy of reaching the 198lb. arbitrary weight, you will destroy your precious, metabolically efficient lean mass, compromise your endocrine/hormonal balance and look fat-skinny. Why would you want to do that?
I am totally convinced that you have been brainwashed by that Kimkins cult. I suggest you abandon this madness and procure a de-programmer as soon as possible.
Hey yourmamma2000, I'm sorry if you feel I am in denial being a part of the Kimkins "cult" as you call it, but I'm doing this for me as I have stated quite clearly.
I appreciate that you don't think I need to weigh 198 pounds, but this is what I want to do at this time in my life. If it's the wrong thing and I can't lose down to that weight or if I get there and don't like how I feel, then I can abandon it at any time.
The point of all of this is to get refocused like I was in 2004 when I lost my original 180 pounds. Who's to say 230 pounds is what I am supposed to weigh? Who's to say 198 is enough? According to BMI, I'm supposed to weigh 170. I don't buy that personally, but that's what "normal" is supposed to be for my height.
THANK YOU again for your concern, but I don't think I need to be "de-programmed" from anything. I'm fully aware of what I am doing and reaping the benefits therein. 26 pounds gone in 23 days ain't half bad if you ask me! :)
I appreciate your comments!
Grats and well done Jimmy! After it took me over 3 months to lose 15lbs doing "regular" low carb, I finally had to start cutting out the extra fat and calories and now I"ve lost 13lbs in 3 weeks!! I was driving myself crazy before not really losing weight but always in ketosis every single day! I'm just thrilled to find a solution.
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